Bathroom Mod Blog Page Ten - floor tile - jspirate

Weekend Twenty-four (12/4) - toilet demo and floor prep

The project has reached a HUGE milestone.  Unfortunately, Its not a good one.  The toilet has to be removed and it will be at least 2 weeks before the new one goes in.  TWO WEEKS!!!

Weekend Twenty-four - linoleum removal

As before, the linoleum pulled up without event.  The not-so-fun part was removing all the staples from the floor.  The Blue Tape marks the area that was removed to make the pile of staples seen in the picture.


Notice that the toilet is still there...

Weekend Twenty-four - subfloor

The subfloor is complete!  Unfortunately, this step was not without event.  When I woke up the next morning I had some fairly significant pain in the palm of my hand.  More specifically it was related to the index finger and thumb.  I assume it was an overuse injury.  The two pieces of ply board required about 400 screws.  Each screw gets half sunk, then backed out, and then fully sunk.  So yeah, getting older isn't for sissies.

Weekend Twenty-four - coupling layer

The 24" on center joists allow too much floor flex for tile.  There are two recommended fixes for this:

1. Add an additional 3/4 inch piece of plyboard

2.  Add a 3/8 inch of plyboard and a coupling layer. The coupling layer is comprised of a high tech fabric secured to the plyboard with an adhesive


I chose option No. 2 because it would not raise the floor level nearly as much as option No. 1.  The installation requires spreading an adhesive letting it "tack-up" and then securing the fabric to it.  A 75 pound linoleum roller is then used to roll it.  It requires two rollings separated by three hours.  I rented the roller from Home Depot. 


The coupling layer acts like a shock absorber and stiffener.  It seems like those are opposites, but they are not.  It system ties the plyboard seams together which reduces floor flex, but it also allows for the system to take some of the force thus reducing flex across the plyboard/joists.


Unfortunately, I didn't finish the coupling layer because I ran out of glue!  Bagh!

Weekend Twenty-four - Noble EXT

Weekend Twenty-four - sticky, sticky, sticky

This stuff is like nothing I've ever worked with before!  It sticks to anything and everything.  Its also very rubbery!  In the picture above, I placed a piece of wax paper between the seams of fabric so that I could sufficiently roll the floor.  The glue was rolled into the seam between the pieces of fabric as I anticipated.  My mistake was that I left the wax paper there for about an hour before trying to pull it up.  The Noble EXT had secured itself to the wax paper.

Weekend Twenty-four - more sticky

The picture above was taken after doing about Three hours of tile work.   This is significant because tile work requires lots of water.  Mixing, cleaning, cleaning and more cleaning.  The Thinset is very caustic and leaves your hands squeaky clean (and probably with less skin cells in-tact).  So, its amazing that the Nobel EXT was still adhered to my hands.

Weekend Twenty-four - shower floor

By the time I got done with the floor, it was getting late, but I wanted to start the shower floor tile.  The picture above illustrates the "dry fit."  Next up is mixing some Thinset and setting the stone.

Weekend Twenty-four - almost half-way done setting the shower floor

Well, I am really not anywhere near halfway on the shower floor.  The two remaining walls will require lots of tedious setting of individual stones.  So, I probably have 8 hours of stone setting left.  That doesn't include sealing and grouting.


Also, this stuff is an obsessive-compulsive person's dream (or nightmare).  With a beer in hand I could easily get lost cleaning the Thinset up between each stone.  It would be nothing for me to spend Three or Four hours tweaking...

The only other update I can give at this time is that I got the First quote for the shower door.  It was $2600. The second quote is on Tuesday, hopefully it comes in lower...

Total project time to date = 305 hours



Weekend Twenty-five (12/18) - toilet install

All hail The Throne!!!  Yep, its finally time to make operational my favorite commode in all of the world.

Weekend Twenty-five -access panel

Before the Throne work, I needed to finish the access panel.  It needs to be in place before I start tiling the floor.  So, I connected a piece of string to it so that when its caulked in, I have something to pull on to remove it.

Weekend Twenty-five - panel set

The access panel is not grouted in place because it would be not be removable if it was. Instead, caulk made to match the grout color is used.  This way, a couple cuts with a utility knife and a pull of the string will release it.  Well, it might take a little more effort than that, but it will be relatively easy compared to if it was grouted in place.



The caulking matches really well, but it makes no difference because the vanity is going to be a just a few inches from the edge of the tub. As such, it wont be visible anyway.

Weekend Twenty-five - custom toilet flange cut

Awww yeah!!! My $39 Hitachi angle grinder nailed this cut on the first try!  The toilet install has started!

Weekend Twenty-five - dry fit

Weekend Twenty-five - Thinset

Weekend Twenty-five - toilet flange change of plans

So, the original plan was to use the existing toilet flange with a thinker wax seal.  The more I thought about this, the more it bothered me.  As a result, I took to the interwebs for some research.  What I found was the Set-rite Toilet Flange Extender Kit.



I can't say enough good things about this kit.  It is simply brilliant and super easy to install.

Weekend Twenty-five - the hole needs to be bigger

Unfortunately, the Set-rite kit is a little bit bigger than the toilet flange.  This means that my perfectly cut hole is no longer perfect.  The tile is set, so I had to get out my $39 Hitachi angle grinder to make the hole bigger.  In other words, I had to cut the tile in the bathroom.  A Blue Sharpie was used to mark the spots to be cut.


Last time I used the angle grinder in the bathroom I created another 60 minutes plus of work for myself.  Basically the fine ceramic dust blanketed every inch of the bathroom.  Some of the dust even stuck to the ceiling.  So, I vacuumed and wet wiped for over an hour to clean it up.  I didn't want to do that again!!!

Weekend Twenty-five - fume hood

another view

This was my solution to the dust problem.   Its basically a home-made laboratory fume hood, only its for ceramic dust.  It took me almost 20 minutes to make.  So, it saved time and was no where near as hateful as cleaning dust off of everything.


The grinder doesn't make sparks you can see when cutting the tile, but I think there maybe sparks never-the-less.  The reason I say this is because I've seen tiny sparks when cutting tile at night with my table tile saw.  The grinder and its blade could do something similar. So, I had 5 gallons of water on stand by.

Weekend Twenty-five - Set-rite For the Win

And there it is!  Notice that I grouted just enough to allow for the toilet to be set.  Yes, yes, yes!


Also, I replaced the compression style toilet angle valve with a spiffy quarter-turn valve.  The compression style valves are known to have a high failure rate, especially after 10 years or so.  Luckily, even though the crappy valves where used, the original plumbing was done "right."  All I had to do was unscrew the old valve and install the new one.  It was so easy without a toilet in the way.

Weened Twenty-five - The Throne

And there she is... Its a Kohler elongated, comfort height toilet.  Basically a dream come true for the XXL guy like myself.


Speaking of XXL men, see below...

Weekend Twenty-five - back therapy

It turns out that an air tub does wonders for a strained back muscle!

Total project time to date = 320 hours